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What Makes Guantanamo Bay Special

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icon_digg For the most part there’s very little agreement that I have with the Bush Administration; especially there authored and enacted policies regarding offshore retention prisons and numerous violations in respect to torture in regards to the Geneva Convention.

However, I do subscribe to the fact there are organizations and individuals with the devoted intent to destroy our beloved country at any means possible.

Furthermore, these aforementioned leaders of these organizations and their members must be found, brought to justice in a court of law and sentenced accordingly.

As for the trial proceedings, I’ll trust and place my faith in President Obama and Attorney General, Eric Holder’s decision(s) to choose the correct course of action, which at the time of this posting is being decided.

For the incarceration phase of punishment, it must be within the continental United States!  Meaning, in my own personal opinion “Guantanamo Bay, Camp Delta” must be closed.

I cannot comprehend that we do not have a facility secure enough to house these convicted terrorists.  Within our penal system, in the US, we confine the likes of serial killers, psychopaths, treasoners, drug lords and mafia bosses without one of these criminals ever escaping and endangering the public.

So to me, Guantanamo is just a blight on our country’s reputation of justice and fairness.

There are others who feel the same as I; and yet others within the GOP especially who are using their same old scare tactics that has got us into our current mess with the international community.  An article posted on the Huffington Post, entitled: “On Guantanamo, The GOP Attacks Hard Working Americans” and authored by Adam Blickstein has the following to say (excerpt):

After failing for 8 years to actually keep the world safe from terrorism, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and especially Dick Cheney, are embarking on a renewed push to rehabilitate their failed reputations and political prospects.

In going on the offensive on Guantanamo and torture, though, they not only expose themselves to the American people who see through these transparent attacks, but also to the reality that America has successfully held dangerous terrorists within our own criminal justice system for decades now, some of whom executed attacks on American soil.

They are: Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings, who was incarcerated for a time in the nation’s largest city, New York, and now resides in it’s most secure prison, the Supermax facility in Florence, CO where according to a former warden he has never left his cell; also at Supermax, Zacharias Moussaoui, convicted of conspiring to kill Americans for his role in the 9/11 attacks; the 6 perpetrators of the East African embassy bombings are also there, as is the shoe bomber Richard Reid.

All these dangerous men have been kept in secure facilities for years now with none of these terrorists being released into our “backyards” as the GOP would like us to think. So how would the transfer of Guantanamo detainees be any different?

Within an additional article, again on the Huffington Post website, and article entitled: “GOP Promotes ‘Keep Terrorists Out Of America Act’ To Prevent Gitmo Closure”, authored by Jason Linkins, which basically states the same as my beliefs and those of Adam Blickstein. Here is an excerpt from Jason’s posting:

The new and exciting idea from your House GOP is a bill called the Keep Terrorists Out Of America Act, which is SUBLIME. At long last, someone had the guts to stand up and express the visionary idea that terrorists should be kept out of America. This will finally keep terrorists out of America, unless they somehow start dealing in subterfuge, or something.

Actually, the bill is merely a backhanded attempt to prevent the closure of Guantanamo Bay, by turning the matter into an internecine war between state governments over who shall house the prisoners presently in detention at the GITMO facility. Greg Sargent summarizes thusly:

The bill attempts to place restrictions on transfers of Guantanamo Bay detainees to the United States, and has two primary features:

It prohibits the Obama administration from transferring any Guandetainee to any state without approval from that state’s legislature and governor

Before transferring any detainee to any state, it requires the administration to notify Congress of the name of the detainee, and to stipulate to Congress that the release would not hamper continued prosecution of the detainee and wouldn’t negatively impact the state’s population.

During World War II we had the “Japanese Inurnment Camps”, which after forty years we apologized to those loyal Japanese-Americans who suffered are mistakes in political policy.

I’m not comparing the individuals in the Inurnment Camps to those individuals housed at Guantanamo Bay, instead I am comparing the concept of “specialized confinement centers” during war and holding people in legal limbo outside of our justice system in camps and under conditions, which prevents the American public, news media and international organizations access to it’s inhabits.

Complementing my posting, for reference, are the following pdf documents and YouTube Video:

JTF-GTMO Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) for Camp Delta

International Committee of the Red Cross (Guantanamo Bay Report)

The Complete List of Congressional Leaders Briefed on Torture (pdf)

Related Newswire Articles regarding Guantanamo Bay

GOP’s Anti-Guantanamo Scare Campaign Parodied

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7 Responses to “What Makes Guantanamo Bay Special”


  1. May 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM

    The Bush administration failed to keep the world safe from terrorism for 8 years? I don’t get that. I don’t remember so much as a bus tipping over since 9/11. Liberals want to condemn all the tactics Bush used yet not give any credit for keeping America safe. Can’t have it both ways.

  2. 2 Tom Awtry
    May 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

    I agree our country under President Bush did not suffer from any other adverse terrorism burdens after the 911 attack; our response at that time was appropriately justified in my opinion (Afghanistan).

    However, I cannot agree to the usage of Guantanamo Bay as a detention center or what occurred within the facility (torture) and finally, detaining individuals without the due process of law.

    Understandability we have differences of opinions over the past eight years, but hopefully history will resolve our differences and make our nation a stronger and better county.

    Thanks for taking the time by responding and sharing your views.

  3. 3 cruzecon
    May 12, 2009 at 4:52 AM

    First, I must take you to task on the misguided notion that ANY of these inmates have been 1) Informed of the charges against them 2) been allowed legal advice of any kind 3)been formally charged with any specifics…or generalities for that matter- NOT CHARGED with anything! 4) Given a trial or anything more than being TOLD they are an enemy of America 5) TOLD that they are NOT POW’s, there is no war so the Geneva Conventions do NOT apply 6)Told that they are enemy combatants- a word/definition MADE UP by Rumsfeld to CYA the lack of legal standing for “Rendition programs” and Kidnapping of citizens 7)NONE of the Guantanamo detainees have been given a trial, since they cannot be told what their alleged crimes are because telling them what they are charged with would reveal just how we “KNOW?” what they did??????

    The fact that We have repeated the mistake We, as a country made during WWII, in rounding up Germans and putting them in camps with actual Nazi party members, thus ensuring they would become easy prey for the Nazi propaganda and truly came “out of the camps” as hardened Nazi believers, is NO EXCUSE for now saying we can never release these prisoners.

    We are either a nation of laws or we are comfortable being taken over by religious ideology so that we are the “nominally Christian” version of Iran. Which do YOU prefer?


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